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‘UVA has ruined us’: Health system sues thousands of patients, seizing paychecks and putting liens on homes

By September 9, 2019 September 10th, 2019 9 Comments


  • iaalaughlin says:

    Can’t read it due to the paywall. Anyone have another source?

  • trabocchif says:

    It’s sad how broken our health care system is.

  • Raincoats_George says:

    Unfuckingbelievable. What a shameful system. I’m glad this is getting reported. Fuck them and their scumbag practices.

  • fondood says:

    I hope this gets Jim Ryan’s attention.

  • port53 says:

    > Zann Nelson, sued by UVA for $23,849 a few years ago, is a rare patient who fought back. The now 70-year-old Reva resident was admitted with newly diagnosed uterine cancer, bleeding and in pain when she signed an open-ended payment agreement. In court, she argued it was so vague as to be unenforceable.
    > She lost. The judge, according to court records, said that Nelson had “the ability to decline the surgery” if she didn’t like the terms of the deal. She lived with a lien on her farm until she managed to pay off the debt.

    That Judge deserves to be strung up just as much as the hospital adminstrators.

  • u801e says:

    From what I’ve read, it’s frequently cheaper to get treatment outside the US and pay for the plane tickets plus treatment costs compared to getting stuff done locally.

  • spicyeyeballs says:

    Jim Ryan’s response on Facebook:

    “About our billing and collection practices within the Medical Center:

    I learned about our aggressive billing and collection practices within the Medical Center a little over a month ago. I asked Pam Sutton-Wallace, Acting Executive Vice President of the Health System, to change those practices. She readily agreed to do so, and she and her team have been working on the issue ever since. It is complicated, for a number of reasons, including the fact that we are legally obligated as a state agency to collect debts. But we have discretion within those legal constraints to make our system more generous and more humane, and that is what we will do. Pam and her team are finalizing the proposed changes, and we expect to announce them by the end of this week.

    Part of striving to be both a great and a good university is honestly facing problems you encounter and doing what you can to address them. That is what we are trying to do here here and will continue to do when we discover other ways we can improve as an institution.”

  • SalisburyWitch says:

    My sister lives in VA, and I warmed her to tell her kids not to go there, if they can help it. Her hubby is retired military so they won’t go there, but to a military hospital. It’s disgusting what they are doing, and even more disgusting that the local government is allowing this to happen. They should investigate and pull their non-profit.

  • bizaromo says:

    This is very different from my personal experience with UVA. I had an operation performed at their hospital in the late 90s. At the time, I didn’t have medical insurance, and made under $20k per year. Frankly I had no ability to pay. I applied for some kind of financial assistance program at my first office visit. They saw and treated me without an expensive copay (I can’t remember paying a copay, which means it had to be less than $20 – money was that tight). Afterwards, I was approved for the financial assistance program, which lowered prices based on my ability to pay. A procedure that normally costs from $3k to $5k only resulted in a ~$500 medical bill from UVA. I was able to pay it off that bill over several months.

    It seems like UVA has changed a lot since I visited it. It’s a shame. They were really an asset to the community back then. That was when they just had one training hospital in Charlottesville. Now they are a whole “Health System” and are focused on making on making a profit. Health care should be about helping people, not making millions of dollars in profit.

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